»issues with the survival world (from the point of view of a newbie)

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Feedback' started by Railgun69, Mar 25, 2016.

  1. Railgun69

    Railgun69 Newbie Member

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    hello there, i joined the server a few days ago because a friend of mine plays here and today i tried out the survival world
    and i gotta say, even though i didn't have too high of expectations, i was disappointed with that i experienced

    right of the bat, the first issue i saw with the world is that there is multiple spawns scattered around the world which leads to the players covering more ground more quickly, and the bad thing about it is that the areas around those spawns are completely griefed and filled with abandoned poor little ruins, plus it is like that for thousands of blocks, it really gives the impression that the map was never reset ever since it's creation which might or not be the case

    also the world is running a really terrible seed, after the first few thousand griefed blocks of the spawn areas all you can find is water, ice and snow, the biome pattern is terrible and it doesn't leave much in way of places to make a pretty looking base

    i know this might be sad for most players but i think it's time to do a map reset, just wipe the map completely and make one pretty looking spawn, maybe even add a random teleport function for people to find a place for a base more easily

    as for the griefing that occurs around the spawn, it can be fixed, just make it so people can't build outside their claim, they can still break blocks and mine but actual base building needs to be regulated this way
    a good way to counter this regulation would be to give a bigger starting amount of claim blocks to the average player, and make the rewarding claim blocks from playing and voting bigger

    also there's the issue of players claiming an area and just making a huge 1x1 pillar far into the sky, aka the noob towers
    one good way to prevent this is to add to the rules the prohibition of making those towers, and anyone caught doing so could be punished and his stuff rolled back

    on an other note, some work needs to be done on the world economy

    a good way to approach this issue is to add an admin shop where we can sell our resources for money and have that money be rewarded based on the lvl of difficulty that it took to gather those resources
    for example eggs, they're easy to colect in large amounts due to hoppers and chest silos, so they would have a much smaller selling value, while stuff much harder to colect like ores would have a much higher value per item

    the admin shop could also sell items to the player all though it's optional, but if implemented, it would have to be a high price per item, so there would be a point on having player shops that can be rented with the plot price being lower the farther away from the center of spawn it is

    also to add to the economy, adding the ability to buy claim blocks with in-game money would be a nice idea, the price per claim block being open to discussion at this point as i don't know if it needs to either be high or low

    and finally, the world seed needs to be hand picked to allow variety of biomes to make bases in

    i think these are the main issues that the server has and that can be easily fixed
    not only it would spice things up a bit and give a better gameplay experience but give more popularity to the community as a whole, bringing more players to the server, boosting up the rank sells and donations and make for a fun place to be in

    also i would like to add a little disclaimer to counter any backlash i could get from some players

    some people normally say that we can't complain about something when we're playing for free on it
    and to that i'll say, if no one complains about obvious issues, nothing will ever gonna change for the better
    not only it goes against the base principle of free speech but that kind of atitude will not get us anywhere as a community, we need to give our feedback to the server staff so they can make a better server

    sorry about this last part but from past experiences on other communities, that was the most common response i would get from making a post like this one so i wanted to get that cleared up before any of it gets used again

    thanks for having the patience to read this long rant of mine and i hope things will change for the best

    peace
     
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  2. jonsey

    jonsey Journeyman Member

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    Welcome to the community! Firstly, the server hasn't been reset in a while. That part is true. However, survival is due a full reset (which I believe addresses your complaints) once they work out the kinks on 1.9 and plugins. No sure date has been announced to my knowledge but it is imminent.

    There is an admin shop that allows for both buying and selling of certain items.
    I don't agree with selling claimblocks with currency as it takes away from the advantages of voting and buying them with euros.

    Quite frankly, what I gather from your post is that you want it all for nothing. Resets often (which push away those that like to progress, perfect seed (which makes markets unstable and economy difficult to control), admin shop designed to favor the strip miners (because we all have 25 hours in a day to mine) and buying claimblocks with in game currency (No point in voting because I can pay 100k and claim 6 more chunks)... I understand that you're asking for a perfect world. I get it. However, the perfect world you're seeking would last 30 minutes before collapsing in on itself.

    I appreciate the time you spent providing feedback nonetheless.
    I hope you enjoy your time here. Good luck.
     
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  3. ShadowGamer12

    ShadowGamer12 Ancient Poster Member

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    well its not multiple spawn its warps to difrent biomes and only build and break in your teritoy i think you mean to make special word for gathering resources and one for building but i dont think that is a good idea be cause its too compicated and non-donators have only one home so that is a anther problem so its beter yust to stay with this and there is no way to make people not grief the land around spawn and that is the main problem for every server,there are players who are deticated so survival and those who yust grief and ruin,and you can go on other server and you will still see the same thing and i dont think that building and breaking in your teritory is a good idea but it will prevent griefing for 70% and it will make most and new players to not play survival or even leave GC.and i am am 8 months on this server and survival was one of my first servers i played and it will be nice to stay as it is now
     
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  4. Railgun69

    Railgun69 Newbie Member

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    in your post you only mention the griefing around spawn and the claiming system i explained, but you are missing a great part of the stuff i said

    did you even read the entire thing ?

    i made several good points on how to improve the server and you just discarded all of it

    no, the server is definitely not good the way it is right now and i already explained why so i won't even bother saying it again

    please read my entire post from start to finish with an open mind and then reply back to me
     
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  5. jonsey

    jonsey Journeyman Member

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    That "griefing" is actually a plugin that deconstructs inactive bases over time. Sure, it may not be pretty but it reduces server load and opens land up for active players to come in and build. Don't like how it looks? You can repair it yourself. I personally am not bother by it enough to patch the ground because my neighbor quit the game.
     
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  6. ShadowGamer12

    ShadowGamer12 Ancient Poster Member

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    i did read the entire post but again maybe it would be nice to remove biome warps but the one where you can build only in claimed teritory that will mean no mining and i dont know if you have played server that have sistem you sugested and i know you are new here but if you want non griefed teritory yust walk 10k blocks(well sure it boring but i dont think they will remove that soon)and this sistem will lead to more players quiting and if aXed agress with you on this concept im leaving too
     
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  7. Railgun69

    Railgun69 Newbie Member

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    i see that instead of taking my suggestions as they are or using them as an inspiration for something better you just decide to have a ugly and badly managed sub server
    don't worry, you just keep your pay to win and narrow minded way of doing things

    like many other people i'll just find a better server to play in and talk badly about your server behind your backs

    you may have a lot of players now, but if you keep this way of doing things, sooner or later your server will be completely empty and you'll be forced to close up shop

    good bye, money hungry vultures
     
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  8. Soyneccent

    Soyneccent Nimble Knuckle Member

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    I think /rtp (Random Teleport) should be implemented in the Survival Server.
     
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