»Unnecessary Ban and Mod abuse

Offender: AsyFrost and JStormCapture
Offense: Abuse of mod power, ban for the actions of my Factionmates
Server: Factions
Date/time: 2/6/2017 - 9:00PM Central
Evidence:

Time Stamps: 21:00=Permban for nothing, everything else is them tnting into our base by flying, and placing blocks on our claim. Later on, they use a cannon to shoot under our walls... Also, staff disrespect towards players

 

You're simply not welcome when you and your other two faction members start behaving like that. We have regular punishments for people who play the server and violate the rules. People who are constantly complaining and violate a ton of rules have no place on the server. Thus the perm ban you've received. That addressed, moving on to everything that happened before the perm ban.

Yes, they were using fly which they shouldn't have. They have been warned for the usage of their fly in the territory around your base. They immediately stopped using fly after I told them not to.

Placing blocks on your claims is impossible, only full admins like me have that access and mods do not poses these permissions. Full admins like me also do not participate in the gameplay at all, we simply administrate.

Using tnt cannons is part of the gameplay, this is the only way to raid bases in a way of honor.

The time I was online there was no disrespect towards any of the players in your faction, there might've been sarcastic remarks regarding the 'power abuse' but that was all. And not to mention calling mods out for 'abusing' their powers is denigrating the staff members which is not allowed. We encourage these people to make reports so it can be sorted out on the forums in a civilized & appropriate way.

Last but not least, why would you make a report if the server is shit anyway(This is what your faction on and off said). You didn't seem to have any intention to stay on the server whatsoever.

 

also at 15:32 in the chat brodey says something about broaced not being able to swim due to being above, and broaced types shh admin is on what is this

 

but zeus himself never started to act like that. all he did was msg the mods and question their use of power, and he was punished for that.

 

Perhaps zeus shouldn't of been subjected to the ban, but it's a team effort and he was clearly involved.
I can't begin to comprehend what you guys think that is unfair, everything went fair and the people who used fly would of lost their flying ability once they used it again, which did not happen.

I can change the excessive punishment to a normal one for zeus if he apologizes to the mod who he insulted and accused of power abuse.

 

Yes, it was a team effort of my faction, however not listed on the video was my messaging over Skype for them to chill. I understand raiding is a part of the game. Hoever I tped a mod to our base for help. Less than 20 minutes later several mods appeared to raid us. I do not believe that it is acceptabor for mods to use their natua trust towards them to raid, they at that point are players not helpers. Also, if you review the video I took no part in the name calling and no part in the language. I was upset that mods used their power and connections to raid the base I spent literal days building.

 

I would also like to mention. There was no information given to us as players that they were told to stop flying. My faction only got continuously angry over the fact that nothing appeared to be done about the mods end of the arguements. There were things that could have been done better on both sides, and from our perspective we were the only ones punished

 

Yeah but one thing is that the faction was right in the fact that the mods were abusing their powers, as they were flying which would give them a huge advantage. And now that Sohodile had said that he tped a mod for help and then he started to get raided, this shows even more abuse and also how unfair this was (i'm sure you can check the chat history or something and confirm this). Also, to be honest, the situation was not very well handled. If the main complaint was that they were complaining too much about the mods abusing their power, why not just mute them? And also why not confirm to the faction in a /msg that the mods were cheating. And the fact that the mods were simply warned is also a bit infuriating. The raid came from an unfair set of circumstances and should have never happened in the first place. To what you said about cannons and raiding to be honorable, how is it honorable if the mods are flying? In the chat the mods also say that they were flying and /f which is also an abuse of flying. And the staff was a bit disrespectful, as they were calling them noobs and somewhat mocking them. Even you, asy, was acting as if the raid was fair, with your comments about a five minute timer and someone tell him how to cannon. The mods were definietly not disciplined enough to actually affect them, and you didn't exactly seem mad that the mods were doing this but was instead taking this kind off lightly. And obviously the perm bans seemed really overboard. I feel a temporary ban or long term mute was more appropriate. If they told that to another player (fags, suck dick, cunt) and spammed, an admin probably wouldn't ban them perm. they would probably get muted for like days or temporarily banned. and why should zeus apologize if the mods were cheating and never apologize. They never seemed to own up to their mistakes. This was quite poor work, and the faction obviously became absolutely infuriated because of this. and the team effort thing? how would you know that zeus was in the team effort to call you fags or cunt? he obviously didn't do that. and its not like they were in a team effort to overthrow the server, the mods were flying and tp and were being unfair. their complaints WERE VALID. and they were instead mocked with sarcastic comments and never received any sort of apology. and they were going to report it on the forums, but they were hoping to get stuff done on the chat too because an admin was on and they were hoping something would happen. So in short, this was honestly poorly done and the faction was justified in their complaints(plus their spam with curssing probably could have been muted a lot more easily/ just ban them for a day or two. disrespecting staff vs other players is the same, in any other situation where let say i was spamming fag and cunt and calling a specific player that, I dont think i would be perm banned. and also the mods warned that one guy becauseasutin was like then warn him for hahah if you warn me for yoyoyoyo (that warn was also a bit excessive)) so this was badly down. they complained because they were right, and they were not treated with respect. no apology, instead "sarcastic remarks" that included literally saying "i fly and /f" and jstorm saying "kill me im naked" when they said he was flying. and no communication to the players that the mods were punished. and also little discplining from the admin as far as i can see, even encouraging the raid that was unfair as a whole. you were litterally like i will blow up the tnt my self which is quite unprofessional.

 

Okay some information regarding a few arguments you made, based on wrong understanding.

The mods can in no way abuse their power(in this scenario), they can however misuse their trust the players give them. So please on further notice please refrain from using the word 'abuse' as there was clearly no intent of abusing their power in any way possible.

Flying is a donator ability which isn't granted upon the mod rank. Warnings are common to give on minor violations on indirect abuse with fly abuse, which I had done. I am not obligated to inform you of warnings or punishments I give to players as this is simply non disclosure with other people. Try and request information regarding a steam ban without you being the owner of an account and they will not disclose anything(just an example). Regarding the tnt'ing, Fone_bone mentioned to me that he was bad in tnt'ing your base which is actually a fact, thus I asked the player who is pretty much the best tnt cannoneer in the server to teach him how to make a tnt cannon, I don't see what is wrong about that? Merely asking another player to advise/teach other players on how to get better in the game?

I'm trying to reply to each of your arguments, which brings me to the cheating part again. Mods simply have the ability to mute and warn from their rank(which affect others). Nothing more, nothing less. I don't really feel like repeating myself on this one again as I mentioned it numerous amount of times now, both ingame at the moment and on the forums now. Any comments towards this will simply be removed.

I have aXed's trust and permission to permanently remove players who are toxic enough on the server and do not deserve to be on the server. I have explained in my first post why you were banned thus I'm not going to address this again. (Unrelated) Crykas stop trashtalking me about what I am allowed to do and not allowed to do.




Look, if the person actually did do this then this should've been reporting to the forums directly. Also, placing tnt on claimed land is not possible. Mods do not posses these permissions to do so.





These times only vary in few seconds between their look-ups. I told them to stop flying the moment I saw that they were using their fly in order to get advantage. They immediately stopped to do so, melon333 and me were monitoring the situation until the second you guys where perm banned.

They used enderpearls to get back on higher positions and the water that was flowing from your base.
Also, there were various amount of blocks below your base that allowed the raiders to stand on after I told them to stop flying. There were even more blocks then the screen shows below.












Now check out one of your friends:









Like I mentioned before, I have all the right & authority to perm ban this player and your faction alongside when you all start behaving like this with keeping in mind that you guys are only just recently on the server and are causing major problems like these.

Yes, an admin would probably of have banned you. Your bad I was around.

 

also side note i'm not part of this faction i don't know them at all

 

and just wondering if you found anything about the tping part either because obviosuly if those guys tped a mod for help and then got unfairly raided by a group of mods who tped along, thats not fair

 

I will need names of the people who where involved in the first place(The one who asked for help & the mod who teleported to help). Will do some investigating once you give me those names.

 

I personally along with my brother(Fanciful_Walrus) requested the help of BROaced with A spawner. The cow spawner was not spawning regardless of the presence of grass. He was very helpful in assiting. Until later that day when he showed up again. He was part of the faction that was raiding us and was helping them tnt the base. I do, apologize for the miscommunication on the tnt in our claim. They were flying directly below us, as the tnt was exploding. From inside the base and without flying that looked suspicious. Second off, I will not apologize for the actions if my faction members. Their punishments are theirs, and should not be mine. I had nothing to do with their language and their disrespect. I was furious that from my point of view, an admin had back stabbed me after asking for help. I, unlike my faction did not curse, nor did I spam. I verbally expressed my anger, in a semi-polite manner. I do noy believe this warrants a ban. Third off. I have been on this server for longer than that entire faction. I knew the server having played on it a good while ago. I spent days on that base only to have it ruined in a few minutes my the actions of my faction and the actions of seemingly wrongful use of a helper status.

 

Thank you for providing direct quotes from us, however, if you notice. ZeuxPleasureSr did not curse once. I did. However,voice my anger, however I was banned because I was "Not welcome" you gave no reason. I didn't curse, I didn't spam, I didn't flood chat. I received 1 warning for "accusing mods" and then a perm ban. This doesn't seem fair. My faction, they lost their cool and began cursing which seemingly would result in a tempmute or tempban, however the rules section of the forums does not specify punishments. It appears a bit unfair that I did not receive a warning or anything. I was simply banned. At 12:08 a player was still flying. That was /after/ you told them to stop flying. In the rules it says you may not use flying to raid bases, which they did. Also, at 14:25 you said they would lose their fly ability if they were doing that. which they were.