»[Factions] Regenerating Walls

KK First, you can't throw betraying as a solution. That's stupid, yes it's possible but it's not a "major aspect of factions" that's why gc facs isn't evolved enough 70% of ppl can't cannon and relie on insiding and big factions won't get insided. "Everything should be raidable by cannoning" that's how ppl measure raidable or not. If its how you measure it why not just stay vanilla ? Unbreakable obby and its raidable huh ?
Also its factions it shouldn't be "the way minecraft is" its a diffirent custom gamemode not survival thats why obby is breakable coz its op, and regen should be nerfed cuz its op.

Do you even play factions ? Or are you just post farming ? I bet ur just a survival player ?
Wither is disabled on factions it's more op than lava monsters ( which is absolute s**t its 2016 GC no proper base would be raided by a cobble monster no need to ban it)

 

Alright basically, what the idea / concept was, is making it unlike water, as water is one of 2 moving blocks / flowing blocks that protect walls, I don't know how exactly its been done elsewhere, however I believe its somewhere along the lines of how its blown up, hybrids don't break lava, as it acts as water. So I don't know how to do it, as I'm not really good at this kind of stuff (deving). But I believe that it could work along the lines of tnt having the aspect of blowing up sources. Basically by enabling it as tntable / able to be blown up, or perhaps by making it a solid block that you can walk through (Like-wise water however without the defending aspect of it) I've taken a bit of time to find something that someone claims to have the plugin to, I wouldn't want to post the link here as it would more than likely be advertisement, therefor I request, that if possible to message me as I think it'd help possibly? I don't exactly know how the concept works however this plugin seems to have the aspect of blowing up lava sources. Msg me for info -

 

That's why I think that changes should be implemented on a different server all together. I think it will change the current factions too much. It will only help the best raiders (sorax, wss10, me, etc.). Only a handful of players know how to raid a 16 wall+ base, why enable these more?

Enable redstone torch instead, so that noobs can start copying cannons from youtube.

I think the lava nerf is best implemented on a server like faction black, without withers. Like a raiding dedicated server.

 

this thread is a prime example of "exactly why we all can't have nice things".

first they nerf ig's and rs torchers, now we have ppl talking about nerfing regen walls.

wtf is wrong with you ppl?

do everybody a favor and stop trying to penalize ppl for taking the time and effort out of their day(and many nights) toooo attempt making OP faction bases, or gc is going to end up with a significant amount of lesser donations.

I for one know a butt load of ppl who would be "very upset" over yet more features being nerfed.
seriously after ig's and rs torches were nerfed, the faction server lost pretty much 20-30 ppl on the spot just from farland alone.

you guys really fucked faction up, congratz.
(a guy cant even go dig sand properly now)

 

ffs our leader practically all out quit gc cuz of the ridiculous changes, prior to the changes that guy spent many hrs per day getting farland members ranked up, and now he's just gone.

thanx a bunch for that!

 

So many colours @.@

 

First of all, not to be offensive but clearly you have no idea what you're talking about and this sounds like another biased opinion from someone who uses regen walls: 1 regen walls are over powered, whether you like them or not, whether you can raid or not, its overpowered. 2nd of all, its not a penalty, its implimentation every faction server besides GC has used thus far. 2nd of all, the server's been on its prime since last reset and its nurfs, last reset you'd have weekends with 150 players this reset you have 250 players on saturdays and weekends over all. So please, get your dang facts right before saying any more trash about the server and learning what factions actually is. Now I would tell you where to get sand but you just sound a bit too butthurt for me to care enough to tell you.

 

"me" I think that sounds a bit cocky now doesn't it. And no one's going to play factions black, honestly no one. And the reason we need change is because its quite clear that PvPers have it the easy way and cannoner's dont. Defenders have it easy with these kinds of walls. There are other walls to raid before regen walls and thats exactly why a single wall should never be this overpowered. Now you mention Fac Original not being raid oriented, then might as well give us bedrock, if GC wasn't meant to be PvP oriented then why does faction black have bedrock, and why does Fac original have all the supplies for cannoning literally 20 blocks from /warp shop. Why are bases so big, yet cannons so little? Cannons wouldn't exist had this been a true PvP oriented server. You wouldn't need regen walls with bedrock, which is what it seems to me seems fair since PvP is only whats important from the posts I've seen.

 

Regen walls are a part of factions since the beginging why try to change it all of a sudden ?
Clearly you need to try I bet you will quote this and say you try raiding a base with 55 walls, Then dont raid it let them be I dont think lava should be tntable go to another server if you want that to happen your basically changing most of the cannoning aspacts of factions you next gonna want to just walk into a base and raid it
Watch is Hazwolf (His ally) and alot of his allys qoute this
This is a bias idea because you should look at thier ally list most of the people agreeing are either allys or freinds

 

This idea must be implemented ASAP, basicaly if you make a base on bedrock and make a regen wall from brock to sky it would take ages to raid it.

 

Raiding 55 walls is at least better than raiding a wall that regenerates infinite amount of time and even though you broke through, you will need to break another one (I heard that power factions like electro, beasmode have like fking 2+ Regen walls) I would rather spend time raiding a 20+ walls base but no! not Regen walls. I am just fking done with them.

Regen wall is a part of faction but cuz it's too OP, it has to be nerfed. If u want to build a fking Regen buster, I doubt it would work on 1.8. If you can make us a video that proves Regen buster is useable in 1.8, factions can stay the way it is. However, if you can't, stop babbling about shit. Like I said, ur probably one of the faction players who hide theirself inside Regen walls. Factions is way too fking boring if u don't get raided using cannons, etc. Insiding is one of the aspects to raid Op bases but the chance is slim to none.

Oh yeah u guys talking about how this server is pvp oriented? Watch Noxus, electro camp at /warp pvp. Tbh, if a power faction call the Ivs players to come to /warp pvp, they will definitely know that they would get annihilated by the power faction (3v1) especially, they can easily escape in pvp bases so yeah, the next thing I see is either the pvp base (which has 1 single wall) gets raided within the next 30 minutes but then the hider is already gone or the chat starts to be filled with trash talk and shit. Pvp oriented? Nope, I don't think so

Meanwhile, the raiding aspect of factions original is like very unpopular cuz of the Regen walls. Bluejay made this post cuz he wanted to encourage raiding more.

Also, if the bases start getting bigger -> more claim -> greater chance to get over claimed -> they have to unclaimed parts of their base -> raider can start claiming in and in to raid. Especially, like I said, raiding a base with 10+ walls is better than having to raid a base with 2+ Regen walls! which can literally generate infinite times.

I am done, 1:09am for me. Peace

- SoraX

 

you know that if they make lava source blocks explodable, factions will just ramp up their use of lava source blocks vertically to mitigate whatever damage could be caused.

I dont think it would be impenetrable, but close enough.

 

Okay, in short so you don't have to read much, all you have to do is add lava blocks to be tntable. By this I mean, with the tnt explosion the lava source blocks should also explode, like any other solid block, so what this will do is that our tnt would actually affect the lava source blocks and then the purpose of regen would be a waste because if there is no source block, there is no regen. So basically lava source block needs to be tntable.

 

You clearly have jsut gone to the fact that my allies raid and your allies don't. Looking at your ally list probably 1/20 are actually active in raiding. To add to that, the only support you'd get ever is from the few people who appose this, and those people are the ones who use it themselves, go elsewhere to hate because clearly your points aren't even based on the topic, so what if my allies like this idea? What am I? Going into their heads saying like this idea or gtfo? No I'm not so quit trying to say bs about allies and what not when your ally list is trash. Half the people who agree here are enemies so you clearly didn't point that out now did you. Players like @Silencerz45 and @glacezoir23 agree yet they're my enemies, so learn your dang facts instead of being another biased player.

But wait theres more, now here floods in the y waters of more replies to this when its been made clear aXed only wanted to know how it was implemented, should be sign enough that this is being delt with and your hate isn't changing anything here... still going to get like 3 more stupid replies anyways, that'll be liked by the same old players.

 

I dont thing we should waste time on people whi dont understand... I guesse lock the topic cause. Common sense is not common to all..
So I guess wait for aXed.. hopefully he agrees...
Btw who all r agents r like old and do not belive in change... they cant understand that changes r needed once every time....
For example gc will go 1.9 where pvp will be dead or more fun. Dont really know... so taking that as an example change gc faction to 2016 type of faction not old 2013 days...
I really dont want to explain the kids who r agents. So I request lock if bluejay agrees.. cause those 8 years wont understand... they actually dont know the meaning of faction's... cya

 

in all seriousness tho, I understand why you would want to make it a bit easier to raid, but how would you presume to deal with large factions whom circumvent your plan by just literally using multiple lava source blocks along the vertical path the regen-wall lava would normally flow.

now you see in a perfect world for your idea to work its kind of contingent upon you being able to take out all or a number of the lava source blocks in the first place, in the given area of attack.

but if there were random source blocks placed along the path of the lava flowing vertically, it could possibly make raids last hours.

you get what im saying?

 

Why dont u leave the server u skid....
Telling others to leave the server... who gave u the rights to say that... u r not the owner of the server...
This idea can prevent more p2w if u can understand as u r 12...I dont realky think u understand the topic it self... but skids like u belong in poop servers not here...so how about stop making ur fantasies and make some sense in ur comments stop copying others....

 

Brah did u even trying raiding a regen wall base..?? Dont think so...

 

Nope, Im a builder, thats my job at farland.