»[Factions Related] Cannon Test Server

So to start out I'd like to give out the info that's due here. This idea is not mine, all credit goes to the first player I saw say it on the forum: @Black17 (I Don't know if that worked or didn't for some reason). Now I don't know if he was planning on creating a thread for this specific idea, but I'll do it anyways, however this is just my opinion on the idea, as well as just trying to get this idea out there, as I see it as a great idea, and possibly editing it I don't know, just the idea I saw from him. Thanks to Black17.

I am adding a poll, as I have stern confidence in Black17's idea, and believe it would easily be added with some more growth / popularity.

The Idea
Create a cannon testing server on GuildCraft.

Possibilities
The idea is simple, however, I think that if a server like Draw My Thing was to be replaced by a purely cannon testing server, it'd be amazing. Now I'd like to give a sturdy and organized argument on how and why this idea should / could be implemented as well as my counter arguments. Here goes:

Reasons

• Factions players aren't willing to test cannons (I being one of them myself) (I have from time to time, but I agree with this idea, as it requires a lot of risk to actually test certain cannons, among them very large cannons are always a problem to test.) Its quite simple, TNT is kind of useless for large factions, as well as small who have creeper spawners, its gotten a bit more afk-full on factions, and we don't really use TNT often, now you may be saying "well go test cannons using that tnt" but the problem is here, we don't know what to do, what the server can handle, or the timings, hard to expect a cannon to work when there are hundreds of things that can go wrong. Now YT videos demonstrate and all, but clearly GC has its diverse timing as do all servers.
• Draw My Thing is almost always empty. [Sorry to you 8-10 active players, but I haven't seen Draw My Thing go any higher than 12 players, which I can guarantee would double, triple or even quadruple when a Test Server is added]. Now you see, we players on factions have a growing curiosity, we don't use large cannons often but I'm sure everyone who is able to cannon / wants to learn to cannon wouldn't mind having a server that they can go to as a cracked player to join and just show off their cannon skills or even use schematics as examples.
• No other cracked servers provide test cannon servers. GC will be among one of the few to even have a test cannon server, not to mention probably the first ever on cracked (If its added, hopefully it is). This is tremendously helpful to GC's popularity, new players and even skilled players, will look for Test servers, and when they see GC with 3000 players online, they'll be clicking on GC before many other servers, even before premium servers. It'll bring many new skilled players to factions, and may even cause the entire atmosphere of factions to change (I think it will change )
• Now another reason this brings is popularity is: If worldedit were to be available, it'd increase votes, per say (Yes I know some of you know which place this idea is from, but honestly, they're not cracked, GC OP, and this idea is probably one of the best that a server's used) basically with the concept that voting 3 times, will allow members / donators who don't receive the permanent world edit, would force players into voting if they're normal members, they still have a chance to test!! Its not pay 2 win, and honestly no one could complain! All players should be fine with this as, donators always need benefits and players are still getting the same benefits however at a cost (Votes) which will greatly help boost the popularity of GuildCraft.

Con

• Players will try to lava monster / cause lag. [This has so many possible solutions its hard to list all of them, however I'll do my best here]

Solutions:

1. (Just so you can actually read this its not in neon green) Disable world edit on blocks such as, tnt, dispensers, and some other items admins find hard, these items are all placable and shouldn't be a problem for most players
2. Remove placable TNT, yes certain cannons require placable TNT but those are honestly just small cannons which really don't need testing, large cannons use dispensers, and are the ones that these test servers are even needed for. This will prevent anyone trying to fool around by placing a ton of tnt and lagging it.
3. Create rules against auto cannons, having admins online to monitor this (admins that have access to the server lag GUI or whatever it is that shows the server's lag from redstone, etc. So that admins can notice spikes in lag from the GUI alone, as well as certain locations can be monitored and not only in game).
4. Prevent certain ranks from placing too many dispensers, there should be a fine line, (This is debatable feel free to give your opinion) but this should make up for all the members who try to ban evade then purposefully lag the server using "lag machines" which I can't go too in-depth into for the reason someone out there will probably read it and use it, but will try to create lag cannons on purpose.

Con

• Certain players will not know how to cannon, yes this is understandable, however, this is easily fixed.

Solutions:

• Something along the lines of a schematic list should account for all new players / players who want to see a big cannon. Now the way this works is, I believe its schematica, but anyways, having a group of players (Admins possibly who're experienced ) or even find the schematic from players elsewhere, to provide schematics for large cannons to even small cannons (basically they have to be built and tested but thats not very tedious if someone experienced in the admin team knows how to cannon), these can vary in range from the classic Leinadarcher 20 stacker to GetSwatted's 230 stacker. These can be built for a dev (@Tibo442 or another dev) to make into a schematic, really shouldn't be too hard (Hopefully). These cannons can be tested for GC timing, and be put for all players to use (Being they have world edit permissions from voting they can do //schematic load lein20stacker or something along the lines of that, and to view the entire list they can do //schematic list and view all the schematics at their fingertips.) Now the way I believe it works is //schematic load ___ will cause the schematic that was loaded into the server to be copied into their //paste command.

Ranks
I suggest reading this if you'd want to skip anyplace, it'd be least here, especially you donators. Now the way I think it should work (again open to feedback) is that the current global ranks should carry over (because its basically a factions sub server) and the larger your rank the bigger your plot, thus allowing players to contain more cannons in their plot if they're donators. However, if you're a member, don't panic, I think the classic plot should be a large enough place for players of good skill in cannoning to work, thus not limiting ranks, however there wouldn't be space to fit as many as like 10+ 100 stackers in the plot, as probably ranks like God or something around that should be able to. Again this is a suggestion, this isn't carved into stone so hopefully this is how you guys would want it, if not feel free to reply with your suggestion edits

Basically I think ranks should matter here, however it shouldn't be a pay 2 play sort of thing, I think ranks like that of Creative (Unsure of which rank+ gets permanent permissions for world edit in Creative) should be given permanent world edit here as well, and maybe even extra perms, as they should be getting banned less (No offense to you members, just a few odd balls that seem to cause problems) but anyways, maybe allowing some ranks to access a bit more plot wise and other wise its all good.

Plots
I think as I stated in ranks, it should go as following in tiers (numbers in chunk wise should be determined by admins, hopefully its based on good judgement on what admins think are good) but anyways, I'll put the list in tiers last, I'll explain how I think plots should work. I think the walls should be bedrock, and like other test servers the floor should be patterned to chunks, chunks basically meaning every chunk is alternative. So basically lets say these following "/" were chunks just a little example of how it should be. Basically the colors = the color clay the ground should be / could be (just a suggestion) thus marking chunks, allowing for players to further interpret the chunks and maybe even use it for base-planning.
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And: @aXed @Tenderman @Tibo442 @AsyFrost @Melon333 - tag everyone lel

 

Hopefully you get the point, now here's how I think the tiers should be for plot size (not labeling amount of chunks, just hoping admins can make a good call on the chunk sizes as well as the differences between each rank. So here we go from Least large to largest plot sizes! Bold = World Edit

Non-Donator
Donator
VIP
Hero
Elite
Legend
Demigod
God
Titan

This part wouldn't fit in so here it is. Again thanks to Black17 for the idea (Sorry I didn't ask to create a thread about it, just had the free time so I made it)
Took me absolutely forever to make this, so cheers. And Enjoy
Sorry for those of you who read all of this, I just type alot.

Tagging players who might be interested:
@HazWolf @Pooperazee @Silencerz45 @glacezoir23 @wss10 -Will add more later.

 

I think this is a great idea, as he says Draw My Thing no one plays on And OITC, OITC there is not as many people on maby 10-15 at most. And as jay says i never heard of a cracked server have a test cannon sever. And i think you could make more income by making the test cannon server cause as he states, What rank you are will increase the size of your plot. So if your a doanter you get a 20x20 but it obviously increase the size the higer the rank. Us cannoner (Cracked accounts) cant really test it only on single player witch is not fun cause you want to interact with your freinds when your making your cannon. And it will be less lag if Guild craft is hosting it cause they have higher ram and fps. But if we play in single player or we host it it would be way more lag then you guys hosting it. I hope admin can read this and take this to action. Alot of people on the server what to have a cannon server and i think it is a great idea


+1 Please Add This

~Sweg

 

Still looking into this, but I do believe that 20x20 might just be a bit small for even members, was looking more like a creative thing except more of a bedrock wall sort of thing thus cannoning can be more "secluded" and will prevent anyone trying to glitch / abuse bugs of any sorts to destroy other's cannons.

 

True

 

Oh yeaa.... +1

 

This would take GC to a whole new level since no other cracked server have a cannon test server It's annoying for cracked members to get an alt an alt to test cannons without their progress saved on a server that has diffirent mechanics ( most cannon servers have 1.7 tnt mechanics / no lag / redstone torches / etc ...)
But

Ranks shouldn't play a role here. You shouldn't limit "testing" the whole point of this is to let ppl test cannons and learn new ones. Limiting dispensers will prevent members from trying advanced cannons.

Same for plot size, everyone start with the same plot size, if you want a bigger one you can donate like in creative.
Idk what you mean by 20x20, 20 chunks is waste it's just toooooo much. 20 blocks is just trolling and laughing at players the smallest cannon like 420 needs 15x15 maybe.
For world edit donators can have it perm but it must be unlockable for members like voting or time played or whatever ...
Ps: I am a donator and idc if don't receive world edit but that's what test servers should be like. Im not butthurt or anything
Also i don't think the cannon test plugin is public thats why cannon test servers are uncommon so i believe its just an edit of plotme.
Also it can be like creative to prevent lag : only tnt and falling blocks are the only enabled entities.
For the overall rating +69

 

the 1 player who said no.. lmfao idek what harm this does, no one plays draw my thing, literally just like 10-12 players, honestly cannon testing server would 100% get more players on at all times.

 

This idea is prefect but it was even sugested on old and this forims and it total were posted like 10 times but i dont think it will be added soon or even but still great

 

Yeaaaa +1

 

I don't understand why 2 people've said no, this doesn't harm anyone honestly, if you don't like it you don't play it, unless you're one of the 12 players who play draw my thing, no real reason why you could possibly hate or say this idea is useless, hundreds of players would find this useful in advancing their skills on GC. But its your opinion I guess..

 

Any admins please rate this this is a really good idea and it will be alot better then draw my thing.
+10000000000000

~Sweg


@aXed @Tenderman @Tibo442 @AsyFrost @Melon333 @eXDawnsaur

 

Bumping this.

 

Love this idea! I think its time I stop watching massive cannons on youtube and instead learn something from them and put them to use on GC .. The test server would help in testing out My skills and Learnings!
+1

 

Giving this a bump

Personally, I have barely tested any large cannons on GC since I don't have resources cuz I am a noob.

This will definitely help me. @aXed please implement this

 

#hydra I guess.....

 

Why do a ranking system? I think this server will be small anyway.

Also add dummy bases to cannon.

 

"This server will be small anyway" More people would be here than you think.. curiosity drives advancements.. and to be fair.. bigger than what draw my thing ever was.. no offense to the dev of that server. Ranking system so it keeps it consistent as with all servers, all have a ranking system, even the ones like semi-vanilla where it really isn't even necessary... Just gives more reason to upgrade and getting a bigger plot. Personally some people deserve bigger plots than others..

 

This is just making a great idea really complicated before any admin has shown a feign of interest.

 

Its not exactly complicated.. they've done it with creative.. its simply the idea they used before as well