»[Factions] Regenerating Walls

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Feedback' started by BlueJay, Feb 13, 2016.

  1. HazWolf

    HazWolf Ancient Poster Member

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    srsly u cant raid regen walls i have tried on beastmode....
     
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  2. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    Alright first of all you need to clear your eyes out, this is a suggestion first of all, 2nd of all you can't nor have raided a regen wall so you wouldn't understand the agravation. 3rd I try as hard as I can, and I'm quite sure on a cannon level, thats much higher than 99% of GC. Now you'd be like "then actually build a cannon and raid it" well u see you dont understand the obstacles 1) there's always going to be lag. 2)Redstone torches 3) Regen walls. Now had I given a paragraph after this you'd still give a random bs response like this one so I won't waste my time arguing with someone who doesn't raid nor can relate to this topic. Requesting you move on since this topic can't apply to you as you clearly don't know how regen walls work. "try harder".. as if..
     
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  3. The_Urban_Viking

    The_Urban_Viking Quick Digit Member

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    Dude I have raided that Beastmode mod base. Msg them.

    Cannon design 3 mil xD
     
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  4. MonsterStorm

    MonsterStorm Old School Guildcrafter Member

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    We are allowed to build REGEN WALLS, its not our fault GC cant handle the big cannons, we like to keep our op stuff safe
     
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  5. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    Yeah well you see, we're not all orientated around PvP, and uhm incase you haven't noticed, GC's potential in cannoning skill is high. While these regen walls basically diminish that potential. And sure build your regen walls, but I never said you weren't I simply said they're overpowered and should be nerfed. Now its not your fault but neither is it my fault or anyone who doesn't determine that. Now I don't think you understood my point so you should just move on.
     
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  6. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    Yes, I'm sure you spent 3 Mil on a petty cannon without having ceggs back then, sure.. Totally believable its worth 3 Mil.
     
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  7. UchihaSamy

    UchihaSamy Faithful Poster Member

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    We are saying we were able to take down a regen wall.
     
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  8. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    Ok so can I see the proof behind this? and can I know what "cannon" this was? Highly doubting its anything large that wouldn't take long. And have you actually gone in and done damage? raiding doesn't mean just making a small hole. Its being able to take loot, and if possible, being able to go up and down throughout the base..

    And I never said it was impossible, I said its too complicated to do, and its too tedious for anyone to really care enough to do it. Sure you did it but you got nothing out of it. And the base still stands, a raided base should be unusable in about 99% of cases especially on GC. They still use that very base and are still getting more items by using this regen wall strategy.
     
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  9. UchihaSamy

    UchihaSamy Faithful Poster Member

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    You don't always raid a base to just get the loot,sometimes all you need is a tp inside.You don't have to raid every base to make a big hole when there you can just tp back in to cegg chests/get other people in.Well its now better since kit cannon has ceggs (Thanks for your suggestion which i appreciate)

    Our cannon design?Well why would we share?and you want us to show proof? A bit too late ain't it (They might have patched it up).
    Look i respect your knowledge on cannons/raiding but we are just saying it is POSSIBLE to raid through a regen wall even though it takes a shit ton of time and trial and error.

    We do have different designs but its common sense that we would not share them to everyone.Of cause if you have more members in your fac ,you will be entitled to more claims which means more walls and stuff.But for factions with low manpower ,the regen wall is one the solutions to defend our base.I apologise if we misunderstood your point but all i wanna say is regen walls are a good way of defending.

    And i have seen your post about viking having 4 mil and mikectaft___ afking his life away.
    Here is the thing,factions is not all about raiding.Its about,like you said,being the richest too.We have our ways of getting income and you don't have any say in our ways of doing so.

    This post is here not to offend anyone in anyway.
    Thank you.

    -Uchiha(Hydra)
     
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  10. Silencerz45

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    First of all, as you said you just need tp inside. What happens when u are tpd in? You can't open claimed chest plus I'm pretty sure everybody with a lot of loot, uses water protection for their storage, and again creeper eggs aren't that easy to get yet that one could try cegging and waste 3-4 ceggs. Factions is about raiding and cannoning bases, all he is suggesting is to remove regen walls so normal cannons that work at gc could get you in a base. And again you say you raided a regen wall, I'm pretty much sure that they must have messed up regen walls, cause to raid a regen wall you need a cannon with over like 100+ dispensers shooting more than 100+ tnt at a time, I'm pretty sure you need loads of cobwebs also the tnt would probably blow up the cannon because of tnt lag on the server.
    Dude, you can build up 10normal walls outside your base and you'd still be safe lmao, if it isn't your fault gc can't handle big cannons stop commenting dumb things, GC cant handle big cannons that's why "This suggestion was made". Stop trying to be cool, plus your base doesn't even have proper regen walls and half your walls are fake, and on the other part you're so dumb that you make an underground base and not a sky base, I could litrally dispenser cannon most of your walls and get into that base of yours you think is safe for your loot.
     
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  11. flyboy7

    flyboy7 Nimble Knuckle Member

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    I believe you should stop trying to change everything that u flaw in on gc changing an entire category just cuase you cant raid a base that you have set home at that you are most likely trying to raid right now.

    The_Urban_King
    None of that is true. Don't try and change GC if u can't raid a base.
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  12. MonsterStorm

    MonsterStorm Old School Guildcrafter Member

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    So if our base is ez to raid, then why has only 1 faction tried to raiding it and that was Exodus, but they failed
     
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  13. ViralMC

    ViralMC Journeyman Member

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    I am here to help but i just dont have that much time to focus only on 1 person.
     
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  14. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    I've got a whole rant I could say about why your posts aren't helping here. 1) You don't raid, so first of all you wouldn't understand a dang thing here (No offense). 2nd You yourself use regen walls within your faction. 3. I have a problem with you acting all tough saying we can't raid when in reality everyone who's arguing with you could probably split you right left and center had regen walls not been so annoying. So I best suggest you leave this to people who actually raid instead of giving false input about raiding, this isn't about who raids who or who can raid I simply told you the reasons your posts aren't helping as you're clearly directing them towards the raiding others part. I best suggest you don't reply or I'll be responding with the longest rant / response you've ever seen.
    So. Now I'll be giving my own 3 page explanation on this. 1. not everyone has a cannon design to do this sort of "raiding" 2. If you're going to mess around with cannons and say cannons exist. Then thats where it comes into play. None of the cannons showcased on youtube work here to start with. I for one can 2nd that with the fact that I've tested F1nnst3r's regen buster, f1nnst3r's 200 left shot, and a few others. Not that these are all of them but you get the concept, large cannons, don't work. Now you talk about breaking reven walls here. Now if you really think your cannon design is so complex, so be it. Thats simply calling for a test server. Replacing servers like Draw my thing with a cannon test server, would be significantly important to GC's faction advancement. And yes I highly agree that regen walls are good for small factions, but clearly its not only the small factions that're using them. The bigger factions benefit WAY more than the smaller factions. And bigger factions are obviously entitled to being more trustworthy as a group and a ton of more claims. Now more claims + regen walls = no one's going to bother raiding it. I mean besides that beastmode base, but its still standing anyways. Now I'd like to highlight my examples of how bigger factions are using this highly towards their benefit. Hydra's base has 1-2 regen walls, witha few walls infront. Their base can't be reached by a slime cannon. Their base has been standing literally since reset. There are things that need to be done to limit regen walls, clearly larger factions shouldn't need regen walls, nor should they as the more claims infront of it, the harder it is to break. And yes you broke the regen wall at beastmode, but those aren't the only places. Lets take a look at NoXus' base. They're using claims to make a corner. They have a regen wall on all sides (Left shots don't work due to the way it was dug out. They also happen to have a regen wall on the side that can be raided through from lowest to max height. But it also happens to be that their base is quite near bedrock. Now had this base not had a regen wall, it'd be raided in a few hours. But now. I can 2nd this exact statement, as I've seen people try on other areas, this base requires more than 4+ hours of work. Now I dont care what cannon you use, breaking a wall to bedrock simply can't be excused by any cannon. I know that your cannon design isn't a reverse bypass or a nuke of anykind, as GC can't handle that. But I do know that breaking a regen wall requires more than 10+ shots to break to bedrock, often with multiple cannons, thus the reason why regen walls should be limited by faction in some way, whether it limit the amount of hand placed lava per chunk or any way to prevent larger factions from clearly using this beyond overpowering their own base.
     
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  15. Mother

    Mother Faithful Poster Member

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    what da eff? you spent so much effort just to explain your suggestion... Well said, hats off
     
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  16. The_Urban_Viking

    The_Urban_Viking Quick Digit Member

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    Bluejay stop ranting bro. You're noob at cannoning. Want to learn how to take down a regen? Pay me 5 mil and I'll teach you.
     
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  17. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    I don't need your designs. It takes skill.. a design is just copying something over and over again.. you don't know how to cannon first of all, second of all I've created far more cannons than you could imagine ask @wss10 the person I work with on cannons ona test server, 3rd of all I don't need a design I've known regen busters longer than you've been on GC, they've existed far before you were even here. And you think you're good? Oh .. we're coming. I dont need some kid to teach me to cannon, when the kid himself hides behind a regen wall, take down your regen wall if you're a cannoner then. Lets see you without one. I'll go from side to side up and down your base. I'd reverse stack through the entire thing.

    oty :eek:
     
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  18. theronybot

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    xD

    Bluejay, hats off to you for taking so much time of to create such posts!
     
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  19. The_Urban_Viking

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    BlueJay your suggestions might sound good to noobs and even some more experienced players. But all the pro's are laughing at this. I offered to help you, but hey information is not free.
     
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  20. BlueJay

    BlueJay Faithful Poster Member

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    Let me get this straight. You think people on GC are pros.. I'll be back just going to go die of laughter. Bro you haven't seen the real factions world, everyone on GC is pvp oriented, ontop of that your "skills" aren't exactly skills, doesn't take much to copy something off a YT video. You and I both know you didn't create the cannon or the concept. I don't need your help because its quite clear no one but you is laughing here. I get the last laugh since this really doesn't affect me, I'll just continue splitting other people, gaining my own reputation, but definetly not from PvP. Cannoning is part of factions. And if you think anyone on GC can cannon well, you're dearly mistaken. We're no where near as advanced as thousands of other people, you for a fact. Aren't close.
     
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