»[Factions] Kit Cannon

Before all of you people jump on me saying "this was already suggested" this, to my understanding, was never suggested.


Sorry this is in purple and other colors, I got bored
Here's the change I think a lot of people would agree with, even if you don't have it, it still benefits you!
I think Kit Cannon should incorporate 2-4 creeper eggs. This is mainly due to the fact that right now, as of my calculations, Kit Cannon is probably the least-worth kit in factions, and its networth, which is purchasable, is also the lowest, calculating at below $3500 for the kit itself in /warp shop (Meaning for all the sand, tnt, etc you basically could just spend 3500 dollars in game and get it). First, let me pull out my reasons, then I'll follow with tons of counter arguments. My reasons: Creeper eggs alone are expensive in /buy, lets be frankly honest, we aren't a premium based server, thus its a simple fact that cracked players will not donate, its simple, thats why they're here, so they don't have to donate, or donate too much. And creeper eggs are kinda expensive. I think that also, by having these creeper eggs in the kit, you can greatly improve the economy, many users currently are talking in chat with "buying creeper eggs for 200k" or something around that, by giving people who spent $16 USD this privilege, it will lower the cost of creeper eggs, and it will greatly improve raiding. Once enough are in circulation, this will allow for much easier raiding, and people won't have to spend half an hour thinking of whether or not wasting a 200,000 dollar item is worth it on a certain chest. I for one Do Not Own Kit Cannon-- This is not a bias, a simple suggestion... Basically, this is just my reasons, by adding this, it won't even envoke glitching like chests being openable reason: Because creeper eggs will be decently expensive, anyone in their right mind wouldn't glitch to get permanently banned, and waste 20,000 dollars or how ever much the creeper eggs end up becoming. Also, this makes glitching less expensive, many players wouldn't be able to have many creeper eggs, thus glitching is out of the question, as creeper egging chests or spawners would require a decent amount of creeper eggs. I also think this will help players use their money, currently baltop only has people who either donated or just afk cactus farms, however by adding this, it will balance it, as people will be raided, and people will begin having to spend money on new spawners, or IV. Its like a circle, people buy creeper eggs, people raid and use their creeper eggs, with 30% drop rate, they eliminate some spawners, thus adding to the normal circulation of spawners, and they get some IV if they use it on a chest, its simple, and it forces players to get better, and it makes raiding more balanced, as people who raid, would have needed lots of tnt to start with, thus being prepared with creeper eggs wouldn't be much different. Personally, this is just adding to the action, as well as the amount of money the server gets. To be frankly honest, no one really buys creeper eggs, nor really does anyone often buy kit cannon. If this change is added, I think it'll make players really want to buy the kit, thus improving GC's revenue, and the only creeper eggs right now come from uncommon keys, besides /buy which no one really buys from. Anyways, this will allow for an alternate, and simply paced way for creeper eggs to be included into the game, while balancing everything at once. Now, let me put my counter arguements up:

Lets look at this: People will say p2w:
It really isn't p2w, for all of you members or VIPs or people who really can't afford this, this is a huge upgrade for you, you can now buy creeper eggs, its really not unfair because its a small amount of creeper eggs, which will lower in value as more are bought into the game (more people will buy kit cannon and use it, thus the later in it gets to reset, the less it costs, plus even if its only 2 creeper eggs, thats still something that could make you dubs of IV, or even creeper spawners for those of you who're raid oriented, and can't afford creeper spawners, this is Your chance to allow people like you, to get to the same level as people who have ranks or have higher ranks than you!

Lets look at this: People will say glitching:
Glitching has never really been a huge problem, admins are able to track logs that show the glitch attempt, and to be frankly honest, GC's got an amazing glitch system, I myself have never seen a large problem of glitching, yes and to my understanding glitching is a permanent ban. Thus people who are going to get creeper eggs, wouldn't want to even risk getting permanently banned, and most people who do get banned for such things, usually can't even afford them to start with. Thus this doesn't provoke glitching or even help anyone glitch, its simple, and doesn't really affect glitching at all, not to mention not many people glitch to start with!

Lets look at this: Baltop
Right now baltop currently has a lot of people above 5 million, yes this would give them a slight advantage when it comes to creeper eggs, but they helped guildcraft, they built cactus farms, or even donated for others, to get the money they got, yes this does slightly give some people a p2w advantage, but think of how much effort they put in to actually get the money or even make the cactus farm, thus this is a sort of reward for them to be able to buy such things. Its simply, and if people really want to argue that baltop gets an unfair advantage, p2w, etc or some other trash like that, well then thats with every feature; Anni's new ender slots: that I could say is p2w if you think this is p2w, i could buy exp and that would make me get basically everything there is in anni, its the same way here, people will donate more for kit cannon, and people dont ever really get kit cannon unless its from a crate anyways, this will change it, and make it more like kit battleset, something that's actually worth it (no offense).

Now I ask of you, please take a look at this, and consider your options. I really think this is a good idea, and has few to no flaws, and will greatly improve factions, and to be frankly honest I think this will bring GuildCraft factions up another level. Please take your time reading it if you can- Thank You on behalf of BlueJay
I will not be posting a poll since some people find it biased, therefor, I leave it to the comments of admins / helpers / global admins / Owners to decide this.
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True af. I literally bought kit cannon from someone for 90k. I mean it's so not worth of 15euros itself. Literally someone selling a 15euro kit for 90k, that's how bad it is. We definitely need like if not two at least one creeeper egg with the kit.

 

Ye I have to agree too like honestly all the resources with my kit cannon aren't even worth 15 euro, I minus well go to warp shop and buy thrice the amount of what already comes in the kit which would only cost around 30k or a little more. Now adding a creeper egg would make it worth that amount and a little extra TnT would be nice +1 from me blue.

 

It was trixxy who sold me for 90k lmao.

 

+1

 

too op i disagree if u want creeper eggs buy for ingame money or 5 euros its that simple if u want kit cannon with ceggs gotto fac black XD

 

creeper eggs in kit cannon?
Check the donationshop and edit your post please, you make it like the suggestion is based in order to make it fit into the economy but by adding them in kit cannon we would just destroy the economy.
Glitching also isn't a permanent ban + the current bases are most of the times not build in order to defend against creeper eggs/glitchers+ we might be able to track glitchers but we can't refund the stuff.

 

Might be a nice suggestion for factions black but not for the current factions original.

 

Dude that is where you're wrong man, all you see is economy, obv this will affect the economy at the start, slowly when we get into resets or into this update, there will be 1000's with this kit, also if it affects economy on a later stage, because obv people at early stages like 1-2months in reset won't purchase creeper eggs. When they have enough resources to raid, and think they have enough money they will buy creeper eggs. Now again all you're seeing is economy, but you're not seeing this one thing dude.




Factions becomes boring when you go like 1month into reset, now hop into facs all people do is either afk at their cactus farms or talk bullshit in fcf or fcp. This is not because you guys aren't doing much, because once you're settled in you don't do anything. We need motivation to raid man, people are so done rn even if they raid like a 2wall base somehow or like get tpd into a base. They should have motivation that they can do something about it, rather than just expect. I raided a base like a month ago when I was active. Put in 10stacks on tnt(not much ik) and like almost 3-4 hours. The base had no walls but it still took me 4 hours, why? Coz I had to move the cannon like 6-7 times. And it took me like 5 mins to get into the base but to get the chests it took me 2-3hours. Now again I would've been fine if I would've gotten iv with it. It would've been worth my time, but what I got is some pots. Now as I said raiding maybe fun, but it needs motivation. Then I raided 2-3 bases, now even if I find an easy raid I don't even feel like doing it cause its probably not worth it(which doesn't matter) but the moving part of cannon is annoying. Now if I had a creeper egg I would've got in creeper egged the chests to get loot. Now also if I didn't get loot it would be okay cause I didn't spend much time in it, took me like an 10mins, that's nice. And all I need is one creeper egg to know if the chests or even like f who to know if I should spend up more creeper eggs , or even like if I should even one.

We don't have events, we get bored, we need motivation to raid, cause raiding is fun if you're motivated, and maybe creeper eggs might be the solution.


Also about glitching problem, for a start you have to face it man. Once a guy glitches into a base now what he creeper eggs some of the chests and what? Leaves. Now what I'm saying is since now my base was glitched into I'll know that I should've made a glitch wall and I'll do that in my next base, just like now if someone's base gets raided he doesn't think about it, he thinks that he will add 2-3more walls up there so it doesn't get raided again. Hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say, stop thinking that all of these belong to faction black. Cause I don't think anybody would really invest in like even 5 euros in fac black(you know that too), we want fac originals to be better we don't care about fac black man. And also you talk about economy and you talk about adding it to fac black. Factions black is the server with worst economy on gc

 

YOU`RE TRYING TO CAPTURE @TheCatsKing COUSINS TO PUT THEY IN A CANNON 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLS DUN DO IT

 

+1

 

+1

 

Ok well, the permanent ban thing I was wrong about, but the donation shop I dont see ceggs in there, unless I'm blind and havent checked it recently, and if you mean /buy, well lets be frankly honest no one has ever bought ceggs, and I can guarantee you, that Guildcraft alone would make more money from people buying kit cannon in the next month + to reset than you would with people buying creeper eggs in the next 3 resets.. Its honestly simple, yes I'm not online 24/7 but I'm sure of all the upgrades, and kits bought none have ever been creeper eggs bought, and nor have I recently seen kit cannon buys. Yes I know you can't refund the stuff, and well glitching should already be a harsh punishment, if its not then I'd like to point out how most players wouldn't spend a large sum of money to cegg some things and then get severaly punished for glitching. And I'm quite sure most bases are built in order to defend against creeper egging, the simple enchant table alone is hard to get through, I personally think that if someone's going to spend a 50,000 dollar item (What I estimate it will be worth once enough ceggs are out there) on creeper egging a small base, then clearly they've got some sort of mis-judgement about the profit. I think that its hard enough to break these enchant table defenses, and that not enough spawners are being removed from circulation, and if you really wanted p2w to remain balanced, that these people who spend money buying all these donate coins, or donate for others and get 6M in game cash or something lower, and then spend it on getting creeper spawners, that this is a way to balance it, not enough creeper spawners (Just an example, blaze, and others are the exact same) are being removed from circulation, and no this really isn't p2w, and the reason behind this is that players like TritonPNY still exist, however of lower scale, they sell euros, and make money -> Spawners -> Decent base -> Never get raided or even lose a single bit of it cuz cannons alone are hard to hit a single chest on GC. And no I"m not trying to insult anyone or go on a rant, I just think its a bit ridicule to say it'll ruin the economy, when ceggs are barely a 5% of the economy currently, cactus farms build the economy on its own, and being able to purchase some spawners, makes this perfectly fine, I could cegg 10 zombie spawners, and get 0, but in my opinion its not only about raiding, I personally think lots of people who're well rounded, would take huge pride in saying "I cegged ur spawners" even though its not profitable, its still simple, and I dont understand how this would result in a bad economy, when right now I could sell euros, and probably make more money than if I were to buy kit cannon with 2 ceggs every few days. Anyways, if you could tell me how it'd destroy the economy it'd help me understand how to make a counter argument about this

 

I absolutely agree with this, yes no one is motivated to raid, yes no one does anything besides afk cactus farms, I for one do that too, *Throwing someone under a bus here* but about 50% of people on baltop have a cactus farm that they can basically afk 24/7 in some form, Hydra's fac for example, sits in a freaking base, with some regen wall the only reason their base is alive, afking 24/7, now Look at their bals, says something. Now I'd also like to highlight the fact that u said you had to move cannons multiple times, and I'd like to state that Tenderman declined openable chests, claiming it causes glitching, and thus I agree sure. But this is one area where I think it truly isn't something that ruins anything, it really doesn't lets look at this logically, no one who glitches can afford ceggs, and if they can, well the only place they can profit is in big faction bases, which ALWAYS have a tp glitch layer, and if you don't well, I guess welcome to Factions Learn 2 Play to you if you don't, not at anyone, but still putting it out there, just my rage and concern about how on earth with so many agrees and +1s anyone could say that its worth adding or its a completely horrible idea or anything indirectly to that. Thanks @Silencerz45


I'd also like @aXed view on this since it seems most of the ideas are usually rejected beforehand, I have faith in this one to reach him and be of the level of potential as many other ideas.

 

What?

 

i mosty agree with crepper eggs and wtf front bases decorated like they are playing Survival so +1000000

 

Ikr, rip trapping with this.

 

Very true.. just adds aggression to the game, something we dearly need.

 

i know but srylsly wtf only front claim bases have traps...and some dont,but whats more importnant.beter raiding or more traping(well if you have fron claim base of coure youre gana say traping)