»[PracticePVP] MysticVolt has reported a player.

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  1. MysticVolt

    MysticVolt Enthusiast Member

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    Name of offense: 2920131 - Cheating
    Krocktail/Dynasty - Biased/Not suitable for admin

    Name of offender: 2920131 and Krocktail/Dynasty

    Date and time: Just now

    Evidence #1: http://imgur.com/a/gJh3H

    Evidence #2:

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    Description/Explaining: Watch the video of 2920131 and see that he is using a ghost client. I posted timestamps in the description of the video.

    So I posted that video on this topic: https://www.guildcraft.org/threads/2920131-the-closet-cheater.60838/#post-352222
    Minhaz banned him for cheating and right after Krocktail decides to unban him because "he wasn't cheating". Now I understand Krocktail might have a different opinion on the video, but I believe Krocktail is favoring 2920131. Because the video is really obvious, so many people have agreed with me that he is blatantly cheating. Even after so many people agreeing he still is in favor of 2920131. Also Krocktail doesn't have knowledge about hacks even though he is admin. If you look at the screenshots in the imgur, he claims ghost clients are bs and don't exist. He claims to know a lot about pvping/hacking but he doesn't know what a ghost client is lol. The other screenshots in the imgur is him asking for 3rd perspective proof, he is being biased again, because there are so many reports that have 1st perspective view and it clearly doesn't state in the rules that you need a 3rd perspective view. Never in any other report, is an admin asking for a 3rd perspective. If you need more proof on 2920131 here is video Minhaz did:
     
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  2. KyNNN

    KyNNN Faithful Poster Member

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    Bro he's not cheating he gets 2 bars
    2bars= reach
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    You kidding right? Hes def cheating LOL
     
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  3. Lolo :O

    Lolo :O kek Member

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    0.1- Beginning of the video. They get the first hit at the same time, both get knocked back but 2920131 gets a second hit while his animation of getting knocked back is still going vertically up(http://i.imgur.com/xbKy9EB.jpg) He got a 6 block hit WHILE still getting knocked back(Keep in mind the default minecraft reach is 3 blocks, 3.5 in singleplayer).

    3.14 - Mystic gets a double hit and knocks him up in the air, 29's animation goes down and he gets a 4 block hit, keep in mind this isn't in a combo, it's literally a 4 block hit out of no where. (http://i.imgur.com/JOCJ63D.jpg) after that, he gets another impossible hit (http://i.imgur.com/jwvdaiw.jpg).

    3.41 - Don't think I even have to debunk this one.

    4.45 - 5 block first hit http://i.imgur.com/vJwLGsh.jpg

    4.46 - 6 block second hit http://i.imgur.com/5lzjbNy.jpg

    4.49 - impossible combo + last hit in the combo is insane http://i.imgur.com/VjyeCzT.jpg

    6.19 impossible combo + last hit is insane, AGAIN - http://i.imgur.com/2X2kuvP.jpg Keep in mind, that's after 3 hits.


    Throughout the whole fight he's getting sketchy hits, I think anyone who has been pvping for long enough can tell he's using reach. He gets reach hits while getting knocked back and/or turning around. Neither of them seem to be lagging, and besides, getting 150 ms doesn't make it look like you're getting hit from 6 blocks away on the first hit. I couldn't be bothered to debunk every sketchy hit he got because most of them aren't possible legit so I just picked out the really blatant ones.

    The 3rd person rule is absolutely hilarious. Even badlion accepts 1st person proof if the player is this sketchy.
     
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  4. Minhaz

    Minhaz Quick Digit Member

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    I don't see how the player is moving so smoothly with only 2 bars. From past experience I think we could all say that 2 bars is just tp pvp.

    Anyways,
    I would like to re-ban the player but however, I feel as if I have contributed my views on the matter and would like to hand off the decision to a higher authority figure in order to keep the case as balanced as possible.
    Preferably @Melon333.
     
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  5. Danielcole321

    Danielcole321 Quick Digit Member

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    As a ex-staff with 16months of administrating behind me, i felt like i could get a little out of this,
    i 1st saw the video when checking GC, i actually laughed when i saw it and then called it blatant reach, i then contacted valyn(ex-admin Lolocraft) to get his opinion on it and well you see his opinion here,

    This is beyond blatant, i would have banned and kept him banned from this. No buts you can see throughout the vid his aim is beyond sketchy and his reach is not that of a normal minecraft player and no, delay does NOT cause this, and he claimed he had 2 bars, 2 bars would not cause your reach to double the length of default minecraft reach... that's just ridiculous..

    Honestly him being unbanned has got to be the biggest joke sofar...
     
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  6. NLmocro

    NLmocro Ancient Poster Member

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    Reyzun did the right thing to ban him. This kid is obviously hacking. You can just look at how his head is moving. This is scatchy af
    @KyNNN So lets all make our self lag to get better reach lol...

    Edit: if you have 2 bar ping you will have movement lag but he didnt had that
     
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  7. glacezoir23

    glacezoir23 Quick Digit Member

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    Legit god ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
     
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  8. linky

    linky Nimble Knuckle Member

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    I'd like @Dynasty here to show his side of the argument.
     
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  9. 2920131

    2920131 Forum Master Member

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    WOW okay, i see you brought the WHOLE gang.
    Alright then let's start,
    So firstly when both players hit at same time you can do a second hit if your aim is good enough,
    I had a 2bars ping and so i had weird hits, Keep bringing that up and i'll keep bringing the reason up too.

    My reach is NORMAL simple as that! You can keep saying it over and over again but when you are in a combo you see the enemy hit you from a far, saw that in a million vid on youtube especially if W tap you'll see the enemy 6 blocks away while he is right in front of you.
    my shifting is a pvp trick @DerpySasuke Can give you some thoughts on that since you think it's ''advantaging''
    You just captured pics without even granting i did a second hit after that.
    there is no 5 block hits and no 6 block hits in mc stop the BS.
    AND smartasses if i had your ''legendary kill aura'' mystic wouldn't have been even able to touch me. he would have kept being hit again and again and again from a range that he can't deliever a hit from but he did in fact he delivered MANY hits.
    AND since you claim i have ALLL these hacks then well why did i survive with only 2 to 1 potions?
    Why would i fight a youtuber with hacks knowing he recs everything?
    AND stop getting krock into this he is doing his job and you keep crying about it, he said the truth deal with it. you'll just keep crying over nothing
    ALSO i noticed something all of your guys's comments have agrees from same people, TOTALLY NOT FRIENDS! :D
    NOW before you start another argument and i get 100 alerts i say again
    What you see in your screen isn't what really happens, Watch some W tap vids and you'll undrestand.
    Jeez beat a top notch and see guildcraft collaps on you.
    OOO btw @Danielcole321 @NLmocro @Lolo :O @glacezoir23 Please don't reply in threads you aren't mentioned in :)
    Sorry forgot to mention something
    @MysticVolt Just saw this thing, about head snapping and it's really pissing me of.
    Wanna know why my head was snapping ?
    Fine there i was scared to fight you happy?
    I know you were recrded so i decided to make all my reactions as sharp as possible and move as fast no matter what, and the irony is i knew you would have brought that up sooner or later. took you like two days though but still yea. My head was snapping on purpose believe that or don't i was full on mode try hard.
    WAIT i just saw the whole vid
    @Reyzun You serious? no seriously my JUMP is suspicious?
    GOING LEFT TO RIGHT IS SUSPICIOUS?
    SHIFTING IS SUSPICIOUS?!
    Have you even seen the fight? no you haven't exactly i was having a MASSIVE lag, i'm gonna quote that forever, MY jump is weird?! you serious? no you tell me how i should combo people?
     
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  10. Krocktail

    Krocktail Eternal Poster Member

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    First of all at the beginning you posted a thread in off topic, thats not the place to report a player so they can't ban. Its simple, do you think someone has suspicious hits go make a report a player thread. Secondly the video was edited in slow-motion which is not allowed to add effects on a video to disturb it. These reasons were in first place enough to unban and to lock the thread.

    I watched the video and some hits are weird but so were yours, you both had combo's. You explained clearly that he's having a ghost client and you told me you've alot experience? You can't know what client a person has. These are prejudices.
    I don't show any favouritism against him if needed he will be punished if he does something wrong. If you have proof of this I would like to see because this has 0 sense.
    To talk about favouritism Mysticvolt faction player, lolo ex faction player, Danielcole ex faction player, obvious that you guys just said what MysticVolt told you.

    After all you stated that I was biased and didn't show the right thing. Later you guys were discussing in discord you, 2920131 and tigerstrike were all warned, still favouritism? The only thing you did was disrespecting me and now you're kinda mad because I showed the justice you wanted by banning you from the discord.

    I never said I've alot of experience of hacking but more than you and the mods you asked for their opinion. The previous head-admins always told me to have a 3rd perspective (spectator mode) view since its more clear. The things I explained at the first alinea were reasons enough to unban him. Now after all you decided to made a new report with the correct format and correct video evidence without using a slow-motion effect.

    To answer your questions: 'Krocktail doesn't know what ghostclient is' -> 'that's just bs' was directed to your logic, we talked about vanish and activity and for some reason you used an argument like 'Ever heard of ghost client' which has 0 sense related to the context of the conversation.

    Yes I've other opinions on this video but that doesn't mean i show favouritism to him. I always did the right thing for 1.2/3year, never abused once. Now you're telling me I'm not suitable as an admin? I believe the head-admin who promoted me had other thoughts about me.

    To make it short wait for Melon333's reply but I stay on my opinion and that is he's not hacking.
     
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  11. KyNNN

    KyNNN Faithful Poster Member

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    LOOOOOOOOOOOL.
    Buddy ever heard of schemarica reach? Dont talk about something you dont know.
    Bro u ar fking talking about gc not minehq potpvp LOL ever heard of kb and hit detection? It changes from server to other.+ w tap barely works on 1.8 especially on gc.
    They said there opinion there is no rule that says do not comment on a fking post cz 2029 will cri and commit suicide!
    If u would grt those hits once i would say it just gc and the hit detection but u had it every single time lol
     
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  12. 2920131

    2920131 Forum Master Member

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    Who are you again?
    Why are you here exactly? Ufff schemarica reach? *facepalm* seriously? i've never heard of that name and i wouldn't go to the trouble of writting it because i legit copy pasted it from you.
    IDC if this isn't minehq as long as it works idc what you did it worked on noltie vatvat and others pvpers and your boy ain't no exception.
     
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  13. KyNNN

    KyNNN Faithful Poster Member

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    Noltie is not w tapping noltie is blockhitting u dumb** vatvat was cheating LOL and about schematics reach u dont know sht about it .
    Let just stop arguiing and wait for melon333's respond
     
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  14. 2920131

    2920131 Forum Master Member

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    You keep quoting me then tell me i'm argueing?
    i didn't say noltie w tapped you nut head i said I W tapped against him
    LEARN ENGLISH
    also yea i don't know a thing about it so i never used it ;)
     
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  15. MysticVolt

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    The original video is not in slow motion, how could you not see, look at it again ;

    A ghost client in general is someone trying to hide their hacks so they won't be easily caught. Also if you had any experience with hackers you would know what ghost clients can do. (increasing your reach by 0.1 blocks) In this case, of course you don't know what client someone has, I said 2920131 has ghost client because he's obviously trying to hide his hacks.

    That was a previous head-admin, you can't just go by that again. You should contact Melon or higher staff and ask them if it still applies. Again, the video I uploaded is NOT SLOW-MOTION it's at regular speed and I'll be more then happy enough to upload the raw clips if you want.

    Well judging by the fact you don't even know what hacked clients can do today, that's enough.
     
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  16. Krocktail

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    Do you really think I'm that stupid and don't know what ghost client is? you really think that? Are you for real?
    @Melon333 Just deal with this I've had enough of this.
    /locked and awaiting for the reply of melon333
     
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  17. Melon333

    Melon333 Lord Of Melons Member

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    Finally got through everything. lol
    Very good points mentioned in here, thank you all for the input on this most of it said already.
    No need for me to repeat whats said.

    We all have our own opinions. Take a look at the video and consider some of the points noted. Yes 2920131 was lagging to an extent but remained pretty much lag free the entire fight, that is what I can pick up from the video. Hits are very strange alongside general aim.

    It is noted that 2920131 had a "2 bar" connection which I don't understand. A connection like that kb, hits are not like that at all. Yes W-tapping/shifting can play some advantage during the fight at a high ping not so much.

    Quoting without actually quoting;
    2920131;
    "I had a 2bars ping and so i had weird hits"
    " W tap you'll see the enemy 6 blocks away while he is right in front of you."
    > Little bit specific?
    > W tap doesn't work like that. lol

    "You just captured pics without even granting i did a second hit after that.
    there is no 5 block hits and no 6 block hits in mc stop the BS."
    > Can obtain 5/6+ hits if you're using reach/hacking.
    > The images provided by Valyn gives insight towards how you hit Mystic range wise, not considered "BS".

    "I know you were recrded so i decided to make all my reactions as sharp as possible and move as fast no matter what"
    > You can do that with 2 bar connection 0 lag and still be on point with your hits? o:

    "Have you even seen the fight? no you haven't exactly i was having a MASSIVE lag"
    > One point in video lags back, rest of battle not much of a problem. Doesn't have "lag", "2bar connection" ??

    Hits are beyond "Normal". As stated, any experienced staff member can see and would come to the same conclusion as myself.

    Dynasty..
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    It's not required to only ban from 3rd person perspective. There has been no rule around that ever.. This should never mean that you cannot ban a player who doesn't provide such an angle. My god.
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    Concluding that this player will be receiving a ban, regardless if you have your own opinion towards the actions in this report/user. I'm basing my opinion on what's provided and my own experience. Thank you for all the responses. ;*

    Please do not attempt to contact me on discord/forums asking me to discuss this more with you, consider the actions, to let it slide etc. I'd rather not dwell for hours to come to the same conclusion. Whats done is done. I do consider you, 2920131 as a friend but that doesn't mean to say that I believe you, just doesn't add up to what you're saying. The evidence is there take it and accept it.

    Love you all.
     
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