»[Factions Original] Im unhappy and here's why(suggestion)

Well, as you guys may already know, Redstone Torches are disabled. Why? According to staff, the main problem is redstone clocks. To this, I have much to debate.

1. Since survival can manage clocks efficiently by auto disabling them, why cant faction do the same too instead of banning it?
2. Redstone torches are ESSENTIAL to 90% of redstone builds, especially farms. You wanna introduce economy as a farming age you better go add auto farms in. No one wants to be online 24 hr and manually doing hard labour. You think we are so free?
3. It is an absolute letdown. You guys can introduce it in shop at idk what price, but AT LEAST make it OBTAINABLE in one way or another. Don't just ban it, it makes us unhappy.
4. Concerning the ban of IG spawners, Same for redstone. IG: I've seen other servers with IGs in it and they seem to be doing fine. Not many people snowball their money. And a suggestion for this: Make it available in the voteshop, or set a limit to how many IGs a person can buy each week/month. As voteshop is definitely limited due to the amount of votes you can do each day, even members stand a chance at success. Redstone: Like i already said above, make the server auto disable clocks ONLY, and not ban the whole thing of redstone torch. You wanna put pistons,dispensers, all that redstone stuff in shop for players to buy, then put in redstone torches as well! Who can build a single thing with pistons without it??!

Im definitely sure what I have said here is very logical. If you guys really still dont get it then you are just bad. Leaving you guys with a small quote: If others can do it, why cant you?
I know theres no way i can force admins and even aXed to implement it back, but I hope you understand why i kicked up such a big fuss. Peace

 

Actually, auto farms aren't the only way to go. What i intend to do when i get some more money to start with is make a stacked sugar cane farm with pistons. The pistons will be connected to a button and when the sugar cane is over 2 blocks high, u hit the button. It's not that hard to use especially if you make potions or use a mob spawner in the same base as your farm.

About the auto farms, do you realize what would happen if all 100 players online at one time had auto farms? As much as I would love to have auto farms and as everyone else would, the downside of them would be too great.

And about your IG spawner servers, most of the cracked servers I have seen do have IG spawners. Also, nobody in the warzone on those servers use potions. Because they have so many IGs and they're so rich, they don't need to use potions cause they can just buy gapples. I made 100k in one day on a server like that. Snowballing money much?

I understand your point of view, but I don't agree with it.

 

I see almost 250/250 at almost every point of the day and i am sure about 50% or more are capable of making auto farms..The amount of lag you would get with that is insane.. I agree with RP39! about the IGs lets not start all over again..

 

yup without redstone torches pretty much all the cool stuff you can do with it is now broken.

I dont really think there is a justifiable reason to do that, you guys basically broke the faction server.

 

you don't need auto farms to survive, our faction is doing just fine without auto farms and harvesting is good, it increases your mcmmo levels. Second, i have played on other servers where they do not have iron golem spawners. I think everyone is enjoying the server reset i always see 250/250 or more through out the day so i think everyone is having fun and that is all that matters.
-Frizzy

 

no actually its pretty simple if it aint broken dont fix it, I came to this server to play minecraft.
not 1/2 of minecraft.
not 3/4 of minecraft.

I particularly like making redstone contraptions, and lag was absolutely not a problem before.

tbh you guys removing red stone torches wont prevent people from making auto farms, infact the design I have to settle on now will cause even more lag.(by substituting the missing torch towers with redstone block sticky piston pushers(providing red stone blocks havent been nerfed too, lol))

the only thing the staff have accomplished is taking away all our pretty/compact redstone builds.

there are now a number of things we just cant build, geee thanx for that.(insert a very cynical and frustrated tone)

frankly speaking I cant even understand how any of you are somehow ok with redstone being nerfed like that, you obviously dont understand the value of what you just lost.

well for me its pretty simple, if I cant redstone in it, I dont play in it.
and thats just how its gona be.

 

I totally agree with tbi. It's not just about GC's inability to manage lag, it's about you guys' mindset of more redstone=more lag. If thats the case, why don't you guys remove the whole of redstone? The logic, its not there if you know what I mean. The shop sells every other compartment there is to redstone, and yet you ban redstone torches, which are seemingly a key to every build. And yes, there are alternatives to redstone torches, which will as tbi said make the server even more laggy. Is that desirable compared to redstone torches? Think about it.

 

i use a 12 block long auto sugarcane farm, i'm a happy camper

 

Leinadarcher no longer makeable in GC all thanks to redstone torches being disabled, practically all big cannons use redstone torches to power the hammer to provide a less complicated and less work load, there is another way to do it, but I'd rather not spend 5 hours placing slabs and redstone repeaters..

 

Factions in this is server is just bad if you ask me no Redstone torches equal less advanced cannons. Some idiot is gonna come and say you still can make raiding cannons yes that is true but GC makes your job harder. Its a p2w server

 

what happen to the faction server?

 

Players before reset - "OMG Give us a farming economy!!!"
Players after reset - "Give us our igs back!!"

Seriously?

 

Seriously, tbh cactus is way faster than igs and it does not need Redstone at all, build a huge cactus farm and you'll have money flowing in, tbh with you this is just perfect. And about the lien thing, even a normal dispenser cannon ("rusher cannon") doesn't work properly, ive tried it, it shoots pretty randomly, so Redstone torches won't matter much. As long as they don't take cannoning to 1.7 this will persist I think. And sugarcane farms can be made semiautomatic, just come on every 5mins press a button go off, and if you can't do it build a big enough faction that someone else does it when you're not on. Gc has finally done something good, warp pvp is so lag free now, let this continue for a while and you'll know what they did was correct.

 

no warp pvp(and where ever else) is lag free now because they reset the map, neither red stone or them removing igs have anything to do with it.

and if you get lag its likely not the servers fault, its more then likely yours for having a junky/misconfigured computer.

I for one didnt get any lag before.

 

hey can you add me

 

He's right.

 

Im not gonna jump in the discussion why rt is disabled, but im presuming it has little to do with preventing lag and more so with making it more difficult/ mostly prevent absurd autofarms and redstone contraptions.

There are some easy but expensive ways to replace the torch differently using minecarts, pistons and detector rails. This is a short solution, hence minecarts despawn after some time (i believe). There are also many other ways but id be typing here for days, youtube and google gold

Oink

 

Yes, there are replacements, but who would want to spend that extra time to do that? Furthermore, it just lags the server AS BAD, if not WORSE.

 

As I stated before, I doubt lag is an issue. Even if these methods cause more lag, it does not seem to be the main reason to me.
Hence the way you make money has changed, it seems its mostly to limit and make it harder to make automated farms and similair.

Raid contrations seems to be very much possible, with a similair amount of effort. It just cost more iron.

 

Iron golems are not coming back.
Redstone torches are disabled because of clocks (however we do have an anti clock plugin implented so you are right about that.)
But second thing is gigantic AFK farm which on one side can cause a bit lagg but more importantly will make snowballing money way too easy, and the economy will go back to AFK to win and not PLAY to WIN.

Iron golems were a big mistake and they will not come back, one way or another high donators who don't get kicked will just be able to get a big advantage over people who have to play actively in order to get money.